We have been praying for peace about which RE to go with, as we wanted to make our decision by the end of this week. Enough dragging it out already, we are ready to be done with this step and move on. As you very well know (and may be getting sick of hearing about), we have been unsure of whether or not we wanted to stay at our current clinic. While there are many things we love about them…Things We Love there are also things we don’t… Always Room for Improvement
Earlier this week, we met with the new RE ( New RE FET consult ), and he reviewed his plan for a future FET, the results of our HSG, and did a lining check where he saw the “something.” I failed to mention the FET protocol he prescribed in my prior post. I think I was too worked up about the “something” to go into much detail at the time. Anyways, he was not for a natural, a.k.a. un-medicated cycle. His reasoning was that he feels that they can do better than I can do on my own. Hmmmm, I don’t know about that.
Anyone who has been following along knows we ideally want to be as drug-free as possible due to our negative experiences on the meds, especially the estrogen. When I told him that taking it can feed the growth of masses he argued that my body is producing it anyways. But if you ask me, the estrogen I am producing naturally is not the same as the synthetic stuff he wants me to go on that I have been on before. So basically, the protocol would be the same at his place as it had been for our previous FET’s. Although the protocol would be the same, the price is still $1,000 more than our current RE.
Today, we met with our current RE (where our 3 frosties are housed) for an ultrasound, and FET consult. Going into the visit, we felt like it was almost a last ditch effort. We wanted to see what she would want to do differently moving forward, if anything at all. Many of you are aware of my anxiety, and a major fear of mine is how I would feel being at the same place in the same rooms where I have lost our 5 babies. Needless to say, I have been carrying around my homeopathic anxiety drops, and I was pretty sure I would need them going here. Heck, I needed them earlier in the week as I sat in the waiting room for the new RE so why would it be any different today?
We were greeted pleasantly upon arrival. We know the staff very well, and it’s been awhile since I have seen them all. Before being called back, the nurse handed me a rough draft of a letter that my RE wrote for us. This letter was required for the financial grant we want to apply for. Our paperwork (all 21 pages) is ready to go, with the exception of this letter. I asked for the letter a few weeks ago through email, and even though we weren’t sure which clinic we would end up at, I wanted to get the ball rolling just in case. I know this may sound a little child-like or game-like, but I didn’t want to ask again about getting this letter after my first request. I wanted to see that they would do it without being hassled for it. I wanted to be handed it today, and I was. The nurse asked me to look it over, and if it was to my liking, they would sign it and type it up on letterhead for me. I thought it was great…here it is…
About an hour into the visit, I was pleasantly surprised when I realized I had not felt any anxiety or any need for my drops. We started off with the ultrasound. I am currently in the Luteal phase after ovulation, when the progesterone my body naturally produces should have compacted my lining a little. In other words, it wouldn’t normally look as thick as it had before or during my LH surge. This made me nervous. How much thinner would it be? Well, the good news folks is that even compacted, it still measured an 8.5! Talk about exciting. Thank you, God!
The not so good news is that she did see the “something” in my uterus as well. Although I don’t want this “thing” there by any means, it was additional reassurance that both her and the other RE are on the same page with what they see. When two sets of eyes see the same “thing” at different times, you know it’s got to be “something.” She also said she was not sure what it could be like he did. Her recommendation was to do another Hysteroscopy to explore it. I figured this much. After loss 3, we agreed that before we ever did another transfer again we would do a Hysteroscopy before it anyways.
I got dressed and went into her office for the most important part–the plan for moving forward. We started off the discussion with how I have been–my visits with my therapist and my family Dr. She was very pleased to hear that I have been seeing Dr. G for therapy, as some of her other patients do too.
Soon after, we jumped in to the protocol for a FET. I thought I might be hearing things when she softly said, “I know in the past I have not been all for an un-medicated cycle, but I really feel like a natural cycle would be best for you now.” Wow! What? I hadn’t even mentioned the thought of an all natural cycle to her in months upon months. My hubby and I both assumed she would hand us the same old calendar with the same old BC, Lupron, E2, and progesterone on it, but thankfully we were wrong; we didn’t even have to initiate the discussion of what we wanted.
Of course we asked her why she felt this way now. She explained that based on how we have been tracking my lining it seems the best idea. My lining gets thinner on estrogen–the exact opposite of what it is supposed to do when on it during a cycle. We have checked it for 3 consecutive months now, and it has been thick enough to be considered ideal. When on estrogen, and we are talking aggressive amounts, it is thinner. Plus, she agreed it can feed growth of masses and with our history it doesn’t seem like a good idea to chance it. I cannot begin to tell you how elated we were to hear all of this.
She went on to say that we are not the typical patients, and that what works for the majority isn’t working well for us. In addition, she provided literature on new studies that are showing all natural FET’s are quite successful, especially for a patient who has already been pregnant off IVF each time they transferred (ME!).
We talked about transferring 1 embryo versus 2 and all agreed on 1 as the best bet at this point. We conferred about who would do the monitoring ultrasounds should we choose to move forward, another important factor for us. We would only be getting them done by the RE herself-no nurses. At the other RE’s clinic, the nurses would be doing them for us, not the RE. I should note that it’s not like we don’t trust the nurses at these clinics…we just feel that having the person who will be transferring that embryo looking at my uterus each time is better. We did have a slight problem arise in the past that has influenced this way of thinking.
Another topic of discussion was in what case a natural cycle could get cancelled. The great part about this awful thing (cancellation of a cycle) is that when it is natural, no meds have been wasted or much money spent at all. Plus, the overall cost of an un-medicated cycle is much cheaper to begin with anyways (about half the cost of a medicated FET).
We sat down to look at calendars next. We didn’t get the generic calendar handed to us that we have in the past. Instead, we sat down with 3 blank calendars, August-October, in front of all of us.
At the other RE’s we did not look at calendar’s, it was verbal, and I tried to input as much as I could into my cell phone as they told me dates. Anyways, we compared doing a September transfer versus an October. An October transfer was the only option at the other RE if we wanted him to do it, not any of his partners (the 6 partners rotate transfers and his week isn’t until October again). We decided that September would be too soon for us, especially getting another H/S done beforehand. This being said, regardless of clinic, October will be our month. Yes, you heard me right, we will be transferring our future baby in October!
It could have only been God watching over us today. As we sat and went through the dates and times for things, everything was falling into place. I will barely miss any time off, and not by my doing; it just happened that way. We do not have a “set date” for a transfer, something we hated having in the past and would still have at the new RE’s if we want him to do it.
Since we are un-medicated, we cannot nail down an exact day until we get much much closer. My body is in charge this time, not the meds. We do have an idea of the 2 week time frame the transfer will be in, but that is all for now.
As we left today, we felt total peace and a sense of joy, just what we prayed for! Most importantly, we feel confident in our current RE’s hands as we move forward. In no way do we regret getting a second opinion at all–in fact it has helped us to feel the confidence we feel today.
As you can see, we have made our decision to stay where we are at. We welcome all the positive vibes from our wonderful friends and family about our decision! We are so excited for what our future has in store– Jeremiah 29:11
I am honestly relieved that your ordeal is over. And something about estrogen and lining is true, Each time I miscarried, I was on those fertility drugs, my RE finally said maybe this drug is interfering wth your lining and ability to impant deeply.
A natural FET is best, I am so hopeful for you both, especially since you really wanted to be drug free.
I am glad your heart and mind guided you together and you have
Made a decision thats is truly your choice vs an RE’s calendar.
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Thanks sweetie!! Im so relieved too. Its so nice to hear you feel the same about all the meds. While it works for many, it doesnt for all. Thanks again so much for the support!
On a side note, I have signed up to follow up several times and it always says that Im not when u comment lol. Odd!
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Lol… I don’t blog much these days, I just read. I must start writing soon. 🙂
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Glad you have found peace with a decision xx
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Thank hun 😍
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That’s fantastic. That last paragraph in the letter is really lovely too. So happy for you! X
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I thought so too!! Im such a sap, I got teary eyed. Haha! Thanks for the love 😊
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Fabulous news! That sense of clarity and knowing is everything. My fingers and toes are crossed for you!
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Thanks my friend! We appreciate all the positive thinking we can get 😀
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Congrats! So happy that this weight is lifted of your shoulders. I was honestly surprised of you not having any anxiety- since the last dream you mentioned about this RE. I’m glad it all worked out today- now you can rest a little easier xo
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Good point about the dream..I didn’t even think about it today until u brought it up now! Keeping it in mind, I am surprised too about the anxiety being at bay and feeling as good as we do. I guess God works in mysterious ways sometimes! 😍
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As always, thanks for sharing your personal story Angela. I am so glad that you and your husband have come to a decision and you are at peace! I keep the both of you in my thoughts and prayers as you continue on your journey. much love!
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Lisa, you are so sweet! I cant tell you how grateful I am that u get where we are coming from, and that u are always thinking of us. Looking forward to seeing u soon ❤️
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Aww this is such great news! I love that your RE was thinking the same thing as you about a natural cycle. Everything you said sounds so great to me. Love the letter too by the way:)
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I was so thrilled that she wanted to go this route too, its what we have been praying for! Yes, the letter was very kind, thank you. Hope u are feeling well mama 💕
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October was our lucky wining month. Natural cycle on October 16th and 40 weeks later to the day of my ovidril shot baby Sawyer was born! I feel great about October! ! Fingers and everything crossed! ! Prayers across the board!
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Thank u! I didnt know u did all natural cycle that time around! Good to know. I will be doing ovidrel again to trigger too! Havent done it since our fresh IVF cycle. So praying this is it 🙏🏽🙏🏽
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This is wonderful news! I felt so sad reading that letter – you’ve both been through so much – but I’m delighted that things are falling into place 😀 xxx
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Me too. It has been such a long road! Hoping nothing but good things to come from here on out.
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Wow that sounds great! So exciting!
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Agreed! 🙌🏼😀
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